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The Boss Gangster: Criminal Empire

ActionIndieRPGSimulation

Developer BEF GAMES

Build a criminal empire from the streets up. Commit crimes in third-person, run and automate illegal businesses, recruit your own crime family, fight rival organizations, and take control of a seamless open-world city. From the Steam store page

210 reactions from 2 sources (Steam reviews, Bluesky) · newest Sep 30, 2026 · last updated Oct 8, 2026 · How this works

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Steam's own rating
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384 of 460 reviews positive (all languages, per Valve)

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  • Steam user Steam user …2219Steam reviews · Aug 26, 2026 · 4 h played

    I really tried to like this but I just couldn't get into it. Movement is janky, guns hit about as hard as a nerfgun, your character is too squishy and cars break with ease. Story wise, it has potential but just doesn't deliver with the lame mechanics. I kinda wish I hadn't stuck this out tbh. Should have just refunded. Edit: So lemme address the Dev's notes. My point was that guns do very little damage. It takes like 14 headshots from a pistol to take down one guy. It drags out a fight, and…

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  • Steam user Steam user …1174Steam reviews · Nov 1, 2025 · 4 h played

    While the game has potential. It has enough bugs and issues that I have had to relaunch multiple times to correct them. Like the waiters being unresponsive and not moving. The car stealing mini game is not fun. The traffic is annoying and the streets will be full of cars lined up waiting. I parked my car outside the weapon store. And I was getting multiple police notifications. Turns out an NPC drove into my vehicle and the pedestrians were walking into it. Killing them instantly and reporting…

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  • Steam user Steam user …7515Steam reviews · Feb 25, 2026 · 2 h played

    Not worth the price yet, it's like GTA 1 with some EXTREMELY light management aspects. The customization is also surprisingly very limited for what seems to be a main selling point for the game. You're basically picking through various presets for a couple of assets and while you do get free range over where you place tables, the hitboxes for them are so big the club is clearly designed to only have a fixed amount in certain spots. As for other placeables, things like decor and booths can only…

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  • Steam user Steam user …7178Steam reviews · Jul 11, 2026 · 2 h played

    Fan of games like this, but this one is just not it. I don't understand why so many reviews here are riding the devs. Where do I even begin? 1. Walking simulator. I honestly have no idea how they'll even solve this becaue the system in place right now is absolutely atrocious. Most of your game time will be spent walking around the open world. Oh and no, you can't just open the map select the location and have the dude walk there, no, you have to do it manually. Not to mention that a lockpick…

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  • Steam user Steam user …4789Steam reviews · Jun 6, 2026 · 1 h played

    I wanted this to work. I loved the old crime strategy games. I start up the sandbox campaign, start from scratch, and I grind via pickpocketing etc to buy a lockpick for 10k. Great start. I go to steal a car. Oh, there's a lifespan to the lockpick. Oh, there's a cop coming. I can't seemingly just escape out of the lockpick. Oh dang they started shooting. Oh, my 10k is gone as the lockpick has disappeared. What on god's green earth are we doing here? How has this game been going on from…

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  • Steam user Steam user …6058Steam reviews · Jan 21, 2026 · 7 h played

    I was skeptical because I’ve been scammed by indi developers using these character models. Bought the game and they abandoned it immediately. Bought this at 9pm to test it out, didn’t get off till 530am. Just pray this guys doesn’t abandon us. Such a great game so far.

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  • Steam user Steam user …8396Steam reviews · Jan 5, 2026 · 2 h played

    Edit: Apparently, the developer doesn't read or his reading comprehension is terrible. He thinks I accused him of using ChatGPT to create part of his game, which I clearly didn't do. THIS IS A RESPONSE THE DEVELOPER GAVE TO A FAIR AND WELL WRITEN REVIEW. DO YOU WANT TO GIVE MONEY TO A DEVELOPER LIKE THIS ONE? The review was written by a guy named "Caz" and is available still. Apparently, the developer is bewildered by people who turn off comments to their reviews. No idea, why.…

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  • Steam user Steam user …5468Steam reviews · May 31, 2026 · 12 h played

    The game is fun. Management, Production, Tycoon elements, RPG progression, open sandbox. I am a fan of schedule one, and this is kind of the game I wish it was. it feels like you have agency over yourself in semi real world. FYI: I edited money in a couple play throughs to test systems and gear. The game can be played in a number of very different ways. My first play I did the club owner, and just managing the club is a game in itself, I spent the most time here. Progression feels slow and…

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  • Steam user Steam user …6152Steam reviews · Mar 31, 2026 · 15 h played

    The game reminds me of Gangsters: Organized Crime, a game released in 1998! The only difference is, there was a storyline about revenge. You also had different maps for each level, with every level you would get closer to the end goal of getting your revenge. It made sense. In this game however none of it makes sense. There is barely a storyline....and it's a bit like okay you arrive, you immediately have drinks with the big boss and the next minute you own your own club and you get a 100K to…

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  • Steam user Steam user …6389Steam reviews · Nov 1, 2025 · 1 h played

    A thumbs up for now but it's on the verge, where you need a meh button. My gut is saying the game will be abandoned and I hope it won't because the concept is good. Yes it's very EA, in the short time I have played it I had a bug where some customers never ordered anything and just stayed in booths so I ended up having to kick them out. Sometimes staff forget their jobs. But so far nothing game breaking. There's a bunch of basic QOL aspects missing like key mapping, controls/key remapping, a…

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  • Steam user Steam user …2153Steam reviews · Jan 22, 2026 · 3 h played

    As a fellow dev... Keep working on and advertising it only takes on influencer. You have something special here.

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  • Steam user Steam user …2644Steam reviews · Nov 1, 2025 · 2 h played

    This game is very similar to DNFC (Definitely Not Fried Chicken). You are a criminal who is trying to start an Empire. You use drugs, Guns, and other things to take over. You build and Manage yours clubs. This game is very very EA, even the Devs state this. Its has potential. I just hope this game doesn't end up dead. I'm personally liking my time with this game.

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  • Steam user Steam user …0664Steam reviews · Jul 14, 2026 · 7 h played

    Needs much more time in the oven. Saved up bunch of cash in the game, bought the best gun- and some glitch made it disappear lol Not really playable yet

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  • Steam user Steam user …1100Steam reviews · Nov 7, 2025 · 2 h played

    EDIT: After being spammed with six comments by the developer of this game for a negative review I have, I have turned off comments to this review. Its sad as it is that an indie developer chooses to throw professionalism out the window due to a bad review and fling insults at people for stating their opinion.. oh well. Below is my review. Enjoy! I found out about this game shortly before launch. It looked... Interesting. I finally got around to giving it a try and went in with low…

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  • Steam user Steam user …2248Steam reviews · Nov 3, 2025 · 14 h played

    I cant recommend this game YET! POST PATCH Lots of balancing issues need to be done, training costs for Bouncers and Gangsters are way to high to see them die repeatedly. Make no mistake your club will be assaulted by thugs, your bouncers AN gangsters will die.. WILL die and they cost 10-20k EACH. Don't think that buying fancy tier 3 weapons will save you bar because they wont. Save your money to just replace furniture and products. After having 5 gangsters with high end weapons and both…

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  • Steam user Steam user …3896Steam reviews · Mar 29, 2026 · 6 h played

    Reading a review is not enough? Want to see some footage? Check the link and watch some gameplay for yourself and decide if this game is worth your time: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3694858621 Opening / Information And here I am again. Someone asks: “Wanna be a gangster?” Well yes, Mr. Not-So-Shady Ad Guy. Wanna build an empire, make your own money, and escape this hell we call capitalism by exploiting it even more than the billionaires? Sign me up. Yeah… you’re…

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  • Steam user Steam user …8950Steam reviews · Feb 13, 2026 · 3 h played

    I did not expect this game to be this good and so in depth, i bought this when i was bored after work cause i has nothing to do and didn't think the next day i'd be waiting to go home just to play this, the gameplay it self could be better sure, the combat is fine but deffo could be better but in general this game is a craaazy hidden gem and i want the team to make as much content for it as possible i mean the possibilities are endless, this is technically a night club mafia boss sim but it can…

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  • Steam user Steam user …7389Steam reviews · Nov 11, 2025 · 8 h played

    Bought the game yesterday and gave it a shot. Nightclub system is great, allowing you to sit in the club and micromanage for better efficiency. Crime system and the open world city has a good foundation allowing you to hire and upgrade mobsters separate to your employees at the club and go and take over businesses to get tribute. Although it is early days, from what I can see the developers are very active with the community both on discord/steam and I hope they continue like this throughout…

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  • Steam user Steam user …2229Steam reviews · Aug 23, 2026 · 13 h played

    The game gets to a point and just does not let you save anymore. so all your progress gets lost

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  • Steam user Steam user …3983Steam reviews · Jun 17, 2026 · 2 h played

    Installed game. "I'll try it for 20 minutes." 2 hours later: 📈 Empire growing 📈 Profits growing 📈 Paranoia growing 📉 Sleep schedule I have no idea what happened. One minute I was learning the controls, the next I was acting like a discount crime boss with a business degree from YouTube. The game is already packed with content, the management systems are addictive, and every time you achieve something your brain immediately goes: "Cool. Now make it bigger." Then bigger. Then bigger.…

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  • Steam user Steam user …2127Steam reviews · May 16, 2026 · 6 h played

    Needs some major tweaks. 1) controlling the characters is a HUGE pain. 2) Why can I run over civilians but not enemy gangsters? The car drives right through them. DUMB. 3) When I have two or more of my own guys shooting enemy gangsters, and especially when I got the drop on them, how is it that THEY can still prevail!?? What is the point in arming my guys with guns then. 4) Why no blood when I do kill enemies?? 5) The lockpick and warehouse system is broken. Hey go steel this car as…

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  • Steam user Steam user …6825Steam reviews · May 15, 2026 · 20 h played

    As always, TL;DR at the bottom. Game is in EA so expect quirks. I've seen this game pop up a few times and eventually decided to give it a try. For the "old uns" among you, it's reminiscent of Gangsters: Organized Crime, and Gangsters 2, with a splash of GTA (the original). All of which I thoroughly enjoyed playing, so this felt quite natural. I picked it up just before the recent update (the 12th I think the update was) and it's quite enjoyable. It is quite centered around owning your own…

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  • Steam user Steam user …1306Steam reviews · Dec 18, 2025 · 1 h played

    Needs a bit more time in the oven. There seems like a lot to do but it's actually a bit boring. Driving is tedious and everything is miles apart. Running your club is basically menus, then you sit and watch characters do very little for ages. Combat is basic. The bugs are also bad. I quit the game and it crashed my PC to a full restart. I've paid less for EA games with more content in a more stable state.

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  • Steam user Steam user …7874Steam reviews · Nov 8, 2025 · 6 h played

    It is fun so far but some really irritating mechanics make it too frustrating to persevere with. The lock picking is the worst of them. Just why is it so bad? The game progression depends on something that doesn't seem to work. The game has a tonne of potential and I will pick this game back up again once it has had some much needed fixes.

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  • Steam user Steam user …4253Steam reviews · Nov 5, 2025 · 10 h played

    The Boss Gangsters : Nightlife is a fun short and unfinished game. I see it more as an investment into a project where we the customer expect developer to finish it. Now the big problem is. At the moment nearly nobody plays it. Will it lead for a developer to abandon this project and fail this kick-starter to us all, just time will show.

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  • Steam user Steam user …4164Steam reviews · Nov 26, 2025 · 4 h played

    TL;DR 9/10: Amazing. Not perfect, but even without the fine-tuning, The Boss Gangsters : Nightlife is a great experience where the player manages a nightclub and engages in criminal activity. Overview After picking out an avatar and name for the MC, the player in The Boss Gangsters : Nightlife quickly establishes themselves to a key player in the likeness of Las Vegas in which they receive their own night club and a lot of cash after their first job. While there's likeable management sim…

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  • Steam user Steam user …2573Steam reviews · Sep 14, 2026 · 4 h played

    Great game, old school GTA vibes..Would be even better if it had multiplayer!

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  • Steam user Steam user …5575Steam reviews · Jul 4, 2026 · 2 h played

    Yea I'd recommend it to others, this game feels like Kenshi, GTA, Saints Row 2, and Schedule I got together and did the nasty. Sol's review at face value almost stopped me from buying, I buy it and as I compare it to his review, it's just immensely false. For instance, there isn't a "sandbox campaign" there is sandbox AND campaign, there isn't even the option to "start from nothing" in campaign as it's not released yet, if you attempt to start the game in sandbox and choose the "start from…

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  • Steam user Steam user …6976Steam reviews · Jun 24, 2026 · 6 h played

    The game is clearly missing a lot of potential features, but it has the backbones to be a great game, one that is sorely lacking in the Mafia management genre. I bought it just to test it, and then I had played over 6h straight. If they improve some automatization for gangsters' movements (like sending a squad to defend a front thats under attack) with a simple click instead of having to manually move them, it will be chef's kiss, since that's one of the most annoying things I have to do…

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  • Steam user Steam user …8518Steam reviews · Mar 20, 2026 · 17 h played

    Lots of potential. Some good decisions on the graphics. They will polish the story, all good there. But an untested unplayable mess under the surface. Some really sloppy and bad choices were made in the minigames. Overflowing lists, unresponsive UIs. Assuming the mini game is 'obvious' where it is not. Waiting for the next major update.

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  • Steam user Steam user …4420Steam reviews · Mar 17, 2026 · 10 h played

    Yes its a very polished looking game, playes smooth works on SteamDeck as well. I do feel like its more of a strip club simulator then a gangster? What bothers me the most is that you cant have your goods do stuff unless the boss character is doing it. Well you can pay for things like drive by and beat someone up and so on, but you cant just grab the goons you recruited and go take care of business with out the boss. I mean what boss goes out to buy the liquor or sell drugs? Thats what…

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  • Steam user Steam user …4162Steam reviews · Feb 20, 2026 · 9 h played

    Currently there is about 8-10 hours of gameplay in this early access. The game has bones of a really good game. There are some bugs that can erase progress or items but the devs are pretty quick to fix those if you report it. Some things I would like to see would be: - More club layouts - More sandbox activities - Allow other family members to drive cars so they dont have to run across the city when multiple business get attacked.

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  • Steam user Steam user …6994Steam reviews · Jan 5, 2026 · 4 h played

    It has serious potential even though it is an early release. There is tons to do if the team delivers what's promised. Looking forward for future updates.

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  • Steam user Steam user …1439Steam reviews · Aug 12, 2026 · 90 h played

    I want to love this game. I like certain aspects of the game. The first person to god mode is cool. I've always wished for a game like this since doorkickers. The part that makes me only like the game is the same with all games now days. I get a half A game that's buggy etc. Its like I'm paying to test your product. From the way the games are i often wonder if you even play your own game.... I know its just me ranting but that's the way all these games make me feel. What happened to a FINISHED…

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  • Steam user Steam user …0474Steam reviews · Jul 18, 2026 · 5 h played

    At this time I cant really recommend this game, don't get me wrong the premise is good and maybe in a year or a few years the game will be great but at this moment it feels more like a foundation or a proof of concept of a game. The progression loop at the moment personally just isnt entertaining and a majority of the systems feel so drastically seperate from eachother rather than all systems being tied in with eachother. The best way i can describe it is it feels like playing a garrysmod…

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  • ONE PR Studio @oneprstudio.bsky.socialBluesky · May 8, 2026

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  • Steam user Steam user …3666Steam reviews · Mar 2, 2026 · 12 h played

    I’ve had a lot of fun with this game in the state its in, however there are a few game mechanics that could be reconsidered, revised or changed. Summing up a couple of thoughts: - The need to raid a rival club several times (8-10 times) is not a fun mechanic, it feels very repetitive. - Some of the quests were a bit confusing to follow and could be improved by further clarity. - I’m hoping for a heal option for the guards you fully upgrade in front of shops that are taken over, right now they…

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  • Steam user Steam user …3381Steam reviews · Feb 19, 2026

    Literal trash, Early access or not the price tag isn't worth the mobile type game of what it is. I won't embellish since it'll be a waste of my time and I'll just move on. Maybe don't get it how it is now, a crime sim that when you run people over they T pose. Nice. "Also, we don’t believe there’s any mobile game that combines an open world with detailed tycoon systems, action mechanics, driving, and dozens of interconnected features like ours does." You heard what I said. Maybe that's your…

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  • Steam user Steam user …0481Steam reviews · Feb 19, 2026

    First of all you cannot change key bindings secondly it is full of glitches. I got stuck in the building mode because the menu would not show up. Game refunded.

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  • Steam user Steam user …8685Steam reviews · Feb 18, 2026 · 1 h played

    I've really enjoyed the game so far, an option to add your own music to the club would be interesting, and the game should also consider mod and workshop support.

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  • Steam user Steam user …1655Steam reviews · Dec 7, 2025 · 3 h played

    My Final Thoughts: “Graphically this low Polly instantly blew me away! Think early GTA with a extreme visual buff. It is in Early Access right at this moment, and as such we can forgive numerous minor AI infractions and bugs, especially as it is very stable and excellent performance even on lower spec machines. Whilst the overall game is a bit of a slow burner, kind of a good thing; because it helps teach you the ropes. You VERY quickly become the Manager of a local Nightclub & your illegal…

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  • Steam user Steam user …0631Steam reviews · Nov 29, 2025 · 16 h played

    no save button .. always rollback

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  • Steam user Steam user …9396Steam reviews · Sep 28, 2026 · 34 h played

    First time I've given a review. I like the game, it has a lot of potential but there's a game breaking glitch where the main character gets stuck in walls and can't get out. Restarted after the first time it happened and ran in to the same problem. What a waste.

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  • Steam user Steam user …2238Steam reviews · Aug 18, 2026 · 27 h played

    I really liked playing the game, but since this last update whenever I want to Continue my game it crashes... really a bummer

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  • Steam user Steam user …4645Steam reviews · Aug 4, 2026 · 61 h played

    Since this came out as an EA game, the devs have continually added content and always respond to feedback and comments. Every time an update gets added, the game just gets better. Once you understand the mechanics and how the game works, the sandbox mode is a lot of fun and allows you to do whatever you like at your own pace without any forced storyline. This is the game i've been after for quite some time and I can only see it getting better as it progresses. Completely worth the price…

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  • Steam user Steam user …0662Steam reviews · Jul 27, 2026

    40 fps while minimap is open or while doing the hot dog job....with a rtx 3070, thats an instant refund edit: the dev cannot take valid crticism as seen by his answer

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  • Steam user Steam user …9874Steam reviews · Jul 22, 2026 · 37 h played

    the game needs a lot of improvement.

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  • Steam user Steam user …3122Steam reviews · Jun 27, 2026 · 7 h played

    Needs to finish updating, but I believe this game has great potential. Maybe bigger neighborhoods and more factions

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  • Steam user Steam user …5444Steam reviews · Jun 25, 2026 · 3 h played

    Needs some more time. I see what they are trying to do, just a little boring for me. Defiantly like to see where this will go in the future, but for the time being, its a pass for me.

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  • Steam user Steam user …4877Steam reviews · May 25, 2026 · 29 h played

    Already great game in a genre that is lacking. Seems to be have aggressively worked on so it's developing fast. Can't wait to see where this goes 🤩

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  • Steam user Steam user …3596Steam reviews · May 14, 2026 · 16 h played

    I dont usually leave reviews. I felt my experience warranted it. Good game, good concepts. I don't experience any bugs or broken systems. As long as they keep the game updates consistent then I'll rate it 9 stars

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  • Steam user Steam user …4224Steam reviews · Feb 21, 2026 · 4 h played

    It's surprisingly in-depth so far, but man, the carjacking/hotwiring minigame is way too unnecessary difficult with the time limit. There shouldn't be any time limit or at least make it much longer.

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  • Steam user Steam user …0573Steam reviews · Feb 17, 2026 · 6 h played

    as a big boss gangster my self i recommend this game for sure !!!

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  • Steam user Steam user …9846Steam reviews · Feb 2, 2026 · 2 h played

    Not to BAD, still needs work/improvements but that is why its called early access! Enjoy [url=https://youtube.com/live/I0iPgfWncbQ] Previously Streamed [url=https://store.steampowered.com/curator/28820007] Recommendations [url=https://www.youtube.com/@kreatorb] YouTube [url=https://www.tiktok.com/@iplaykreatorb] TikTok

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  • Steam user Steam user …6646Steam reviews · Jan 20, 2026 · 3 h played

    the game is very good! but make f u c k i n g coop mode or mp online !

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  • Steam user Steam user …6321Steam reviews · Dec 28, 2025 · 15 h played

    To be honest, I’m really loving this game so far. It already has so many features I enjoy, and the direction the developers are taking is fantastic. Knowing this is only about 20% of what they plan to release is exciting. It’s great fun, and I can’t wait for the full version—I just hope the wait isn’t too long.

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  • Steam user Steam user …7269Steam reviews · Nov 9, 2025 · 17 h played

    Got almost 17 hours in now and feel that I've done pretty much everything I can. I was looking forward to taking over the other night clubs but apparently I can only raid them. Still a great game for the price and hopefully just gets better since its in EA. Got my moneys worth!

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  • Steam user Steam user …5497Steam reviews · Nov 5, 2025 · 3 h played

    Mini-GTA Vibes in Night City! We have got a nightclub and we are taking it to the top in Night City (legally and illegally) :)

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  • Steam user Steam user …4694Steam reviews · Nov 2, 2025 · 5 h played

    I love this game was a big fan of Big Ambitions but i felt like something was missing this game is filling that void.business with a but of trouble well rounded game so far. maybe just have where we can expand club size other than that no complaints from me

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  • Steam user Steam user …7495Steam reviews · Nov 1, 2025 · 3 h played

    This is definitely a great game with a amazing future ahead, they are EA and just released and the game so far is amazing. I can't wait to see what the devs are going to add next!

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